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FROGGIES UNDER BOMBING

This is a  story by a Frenchman whom I have been having email conversations with.

I have published his emails and writing so that we may understand a little more about how the people in occupied countries felt about Bomber Command.

Contact Yves Fohlen

The First email
G'day Peter
 
My name is Yves Fohlen...SOME of your countrymen are saying that I am the most Aussie French man...for almost 29 years I ahve been studying the Great War....I focused my study about the Australian and British war effort. In France as a battlefield guide..I am used to help Aussies in their Remembrance.
 
Today I am off duty..I have visited your website..a fascinating one and a tribute to those who flew over Europe...to give us Freedom.
Thanks for your website.. be sure that in Froggies' land  WWII RAAF crews are not forgotten... they did not suffer or fall in vain...because today I am free. Lest We Forget.
 
Yves Fohlen
The Second email
G'day Peter
 
Thanks for your mail. I know that some RAF & RAAF pilots and crews are today in bad mood  and feel somewhere to be guilty to have bomb friendly country and civilians.....Please tell them the following things.. in WWII my parents were used to be bombed. My mother was living in Saint Nazaire and my father was living in the Noth west suburb of Paris.
In 1940 My mother was 10 years old when St Nazaire was firstly bombed by the German air force. Then under the German boot Saint Nazaire became a privilege target for RAF and 8thUSSAF. Germans had built a submarine base as you know. French Children were quickly evacuated from the city by French authorities ..it was not a nice period of my mother's life because she suffered a lot to be far from her parents.. to be under the rules of rude catholic nurses.. . Saint Nazaire in 1939 had 8000 houses in 1945 just 100 were still existing.  Fortunately my grand parents survived the bombing. My grand father working in the harbor was a member of the underground.. and was used to help RAF and Yankee crews to escape .. several times also he sent to London infos about the departure of Nazi submarines which were sunk by the Royal Navy or the RAF...
(He was one of those taken by the Nazi troops to clear up the harbor of parts of German human bodies.. after the explosion of HMS CAMPELTOWN.. just after the storming of St Nazaire harbor by British commandos in march 1942..you have maybe heard of that story )
Many times I asked them to tell me their war experience.. the worst for them was not Bombing.. it was the Nazi occupation.. and the fear to be arrested by the Gestapo. For them each raid was a new step towards freedom.
My father in 1940 was 16... he joined the French underground in 1943..without telling it to his parents. my grand father a WWI veteran had joined the Underground in 1940...and my grandmother had became French in 1918..she was living in Lorraine. WWII was for this side of my family a harsh period. They had to live Paris in may 1940.. to go to south of France were they straffed by Italian aircraft. After the evacuation they had to go back to Paris where my grand father was boiler maker. In 1944 the sister of my grand father was arrested with her 2 sons( 10 and 12 years old ) by the Gestapo.. just because she was married to a jew... they never came back from Auschwitz. My father and grand father helped of course Raf crews to escape. Both never spoke about this.. for them to resist was just a duty. In 1944 my father was at Rouen..likely for a mission...he was under one of the worst raid sustained by the city.. and helped to "clear up" caves full of dead bodies.. today he is still used to say.. to me and my sisters.."if there is a new war.. never go to a cellar".... During the liberation of Paris my father was a stretcher bearer and lost his best mate.. killed by a sniper. War is just hell. When today I speak with him..he has not hate .. he feels happy to have survived. He has no hard feeling towards the RAF.. who came at night and had a more accurate bombing than the Yanks.. who came in day light and dropped killing stuff.. with less accuracy... if you see what I mean.. how can we blame them.. knowing the power of German Flak.
Today Both my mother and my father are living..in St Nazaire ..when I speak with them about war they are just telling me stories about .. food and no Liberty...bombing for them was a necessity..it was the only way to weaken the Nazi power.
Please tell to the Vets of the RAAF you are knowing that they have not tohave bad feeling..they did well their job.. and gave to Froggies like me and my parents Freedom. We have not forgotten the cost paid by the RAF AND RAAF and RCAF and USAF for giving us Peace and Freedom... Lest We Forget.
Take care Peter. and please Keep their memory alive
Regards
Yves
The Third email
G'day Mate
 
Thanks for mail.. and also your proposal. I am interested to write something about "We were under bombing".for your website..but before that I have 2 problems
1/ My father...(as my 2 grandfathers..) is not a war going bloke.. I mean that he does not want publicity.. he is very shy and humble.. he is used to say that what he did with underground is nothing.. comparing what others did. My father is also haunted by the faces of young friends.. arrested by Gestapo or killed . I think that he feels strange to have survive..WHY HIM AND NOT THE OTHERS ?
 His father who had fought 3 years in the WWI trenches..  was the same kind of bloke...for instance he refused to be awarded medals.. and never asked for them !!..( I have done research.. just for WWI..he could have at least 5 !!! ).. my father had the same behaviour.. he did not ask medals for résistance acts...both had lost too much comrades..... so as you can understand we the Fohlens are a strange mob. We are just crasy Froggies...
My grandfather on my mother side.. was awarded medals.. but never wore them...and refused to be mentioned in history books.
2/ Very soon I am going to move.. I have bought a little house so at the moment I am busy...
So today I have a dilemma...and I have to decide what I am going to do...and how to deal with  .. I have to respect the will of my father and grandfather... but wants also to tell others that we have a debt towards those who fought to give us Freedom. I have to manage something. about Froggies feelings under bombing
 
My new address will be
 
Yves Fohlen
14 rue Favresse
02300 Chauny

 

The Story by Yves Fohlen

 « FROGGIES »  UNDER BOMBING

 In World War II following the official figures, almost 600 000 tonnes of bombs were dropped by British and American air force on 1.570 French cities. From June 1940 untill may 1945 officially  more than 90.000 houses were destroyed and 45.000 others were heavily damaged. 67.078 French people were killed.

But what were and what are today the feelings of those who were under bombing ?

First of all we have all to keep in mind other figures :

- More than 29.660 French people were shot  by the Nazis or the Vichy forces. 

- 222.000 persons were deported  and more than 102 718 of them  died in the Nazi camps.. 

- officially 58.000 other French  civilians died because of war fighting.  

 

At the outbreak of World War II most of the French civilians knew that they could died under bombing. French newspapers had informed them about the bombing of civilians in the Spanish civil war and for instance the Guernica massacre or even the Bombing of Nankin or Shanghai.

Many of them remembered that in the Great War cities and civilians were war targets. The  1940 invasion of France and the bombing of French cities and civilians by the German air force confirmed their fears.

I am 42 years old and was never bombed…as my my parents and their parents were.. Doing research about WWI and WWII gave me the opportunity to meet  RAF veterans and families who had lost relatives over Europe. I also met many older French persons who were under bombing…I just want  to report their feelings. All are very humble persons and do not want to have their names mentioned. 

  One man called Claude who was living in Paris and was  straffed by German diving bomber “Stukas”  said to me :” we  did not want to see the Germans.. we were afraid.. as thousands others.. we had to leave Paris and on the road nearby Chartres we were strafed…the worst was to think that they knew that we were civilians .their sirens  and the sounds of their bullets  are for ever in my mind. It was just butchery… when  later I was bombed by the Allies..I knew that they were firstly bombing the Germans and their factories. I always managed to watched them  at night . My parents did not want to shelter. What a show it was !.. I never had hard feelings towards the Allies pilots . They did their job. On my side I just wanted the departure of the Nazis”. 

Colette  from Saint Nazaire remembered very well the German bombing of 1940 : “ I was just 10 years old..the first  German bombing was horrible. The sounds of explosion  was deafening. We were losing a war… our morale was very low. I and my family were sheltering in a cave… we were living nearby the harbour ..and the British were evacuating there men. I was dead scared…I remember well my 9 months old brother loudly crying . Since then he is suffering from the nerves. Doctors have confirmed that bombing was the reason.

When the Germans built their submarine base and after the first “English “ raid we the children were evacuated from the city. My parents had to stay.. till around February 1943.. but my grandfather working in the harbor has to carry on to work.. He was a member of the French underground and was used to send informations. The city of Saint Nazaire had about 8000 houses ..in May 1945 when the city was liberated just about 100 houses were still existing… and the German submarine base as well. We children suffered from lack of food and from living far our parents. When the Americans liberated us we were so happy. I have never heard somebody saying something about bombing. War is a sheer insanity.” 

Guy F…he was just 16 years old in 1940.. was also bombed and strafed on the road of France in May 1940…and when  reaching the south part of France he and his family were attacked by Italian aircrafts…He reminds well the anger of his father who had fought on the Italian front in WWI..

Back to Paris he and his father became members of the Underground. Guy joined Réseau Gilbert . Life was hard.  Guy was  studying at Chamber of Commerce.. is still sad when he is showing the photo of his classroom friends… several were deported …  He told me that one day he was  in 1944 at Rouen  under the bombing . After  the raid he helped to clear up from bodies the cellars. Still today he is used to say : “If there is a new war..never use the cellar “. He is thinking that bombing was a necessity. We preferred to be bomb by the “English” at night .. they were more accurate….in day light came the Yankee…were bombing from Higher….”mistakes & sad accidents” happened. War is just war…we became very fatalist.

Many times Guy and his father helped Allies aircrews.. “Some  were just kidds…and had guts to face the Nazi Flak ..it was a duty to help those shot down…their bombs were giving us HOPE. The sister of my father and her 2 sons 10 and 12 years old died at Auschwitz. We are knowing the meaning of Freedom. We have a great debt towards the Allies aircrews who came at night and in daylight to bomb. Today when I hear a plane passing over my head ..

my thoughts are back to 1944. I am lucky to have survived…and happy to know that my children are living in Peace.” 

J..G..”I was 15 years old in 1940… when in 1944 “the English” bombed the railway network at Tergnier..it was terrible..I shall never forget the sounds of the explosion.. and the alarm sirens”. When the “2 QUEUES” (Lightning aircrafts) came back.. flying very low.. they destroyed a German ammunition train…it was just hell”

An other French man just said…” when I knew what had happened in the Nazis camps I understood that our civilian sufferings were nothing  ..”

 

Authors Comment

Many thanks from Peter Johnson to Yves Fohlen for this insight into the personal feelings of people who were affected by Bomber Command. It is hard to know how people felt or even how I would feel given the same circumstances.

Yves has his own page dedicated to the remembrance of the fallen soldiers during the two Great Wars in Europe. It is well worth a visit. Just click the link below.

http://au.geocities.com/thefallenofthe42nd/asstd/froggys-page.htm

I would appreciate any comments about this story please.

Peter Johnson

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