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one of the best bomber command web sites I have seen. Well thought out and put together. I have a friend who's uncle flew on 463 squadron and was killed on the 2/3 Feb 1945. Dave Ankers

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Wonderful memories for my Dad & great information for his two grandsons

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I have some amazing pictures of Lancasters that were taken in the 40's. These include S for sugar and others from the same squadron. I have never seen them in books so I would imagine they are rare. If you would like to contact me it would be nice to let others see them who maybe flew in them all those years ago. Their are also many other Lancs from other squadrons.

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Is it true that some of the crew couldn't get out if was hit????. seems I have read this some place and it came to mind as I watched the history channel tonight.

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Not a comment - as I have found your site excellent. I was searching for a family relative known to be KIA - who I found belonging to the crew of F/O Miller KIA 27/28/9/44. It mentions it was the crews first operation - would this be the actual first operation by all crew members of as a new crew in this Lancaster? I hope you can help me and I thank you for your help. Again an excellent website.

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An Excellent site and many thanks, for recording the facts, so they will not be forgotten. Ex Air Force(23yrs ) Lest We Forget

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A truly remarkable site and fascinating information. Sincere thanks for your efforts. Through your site I was able to learn that Scampton is still very much with us. Some time ago I was informed that this station is no more and that much of the airfield has been developed to modern day industry. I couldn't believe that such an important part of our heritage could be tossed aside with such irresponsible disregard for all those who fought and died for their country. Needless to say, I was delighted to find your site with all this incredible information. I have recently retired from the police service in Cornwall and I am now undertaking some local research into W/C Guy Gibson of 617 fame and trying to find out if there are any relatives of his in the Porthleven district (Close By) who would be willing to talk to me. I know that he spent a lot of time around here, They named a street after him in the village. If you know of anyone who could assist me I would be most grateful. Whenever I visit old wartime airfields, I, like so many others I'm sure, experience a strange sad feeling with a lump in my throat. I do hope our younger generation learn not to forget. Sincere thanks once again.

Peter Mcpherson.

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Just a really great site.

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Enjoyed the site, very good information, more photos would be nice to see.

Web Master's Comment: - As soon as time is available.

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Overall the best informed site I have visited. My father's service is of interest to me (obviously) and made more so by the fact I am a member of the ADF as well

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WELL DONE I HAVE MUCH INFO ABOUT THE F/O G.D MITCHELL CRASH IN SWITZERLAND IF I CAN BE OF HELP LET ME KNOW HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF CREW NOT ALL AS YET STILL TRYING AIRCRAFT ED531 ED PO-T 12/13 JULY 1943 HAVE UPDATED RAAF FILES IN YOUR COUNTRY AND AM IN CONTACT WITH 467 THIS SIDE OF PUDDLE.

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Thank you so much for providing me with this Web site. My father was a Pilot with 463. He died 20 years ago in a car accident and I am trying to find out about his life for my sake and my children's. He did not talk about the war but it was a large part of his life. Thank you again Judy Edenborough Allen Pickworth's daughter.

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This web site is the best site I have ever come across. I have found out so much information about a relative of mine, that without this site I would not of known anything. These men should never be forgotten, although I was not born during the war I know they gave everything for us and I will make sure my children also know what these brave people did for us. Thank You Roy Billard.

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On the 25th, ANZAC Day, I had the privilege to attend the memorial service at RAF Waddington. It was well attended as usual, and I, as a second cousin of an RAF Flight Engineer posted to 463, listened in awe and wonderment to the tales told over a beer, and also felt proud to be mixing with these outstanding men. Unfortunately my relation Flight Engineer Sgt. O.Smart, Flying with P/O M.E.Pratten in ME571 did not return, like so many, but they will not be forgotten as long as excellent sites like this and the associations both here and in Australia allow us to remember. Thank You and keep up the good work .

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Excellent website. I noted from the “Lost in Action -463 Sqdn” page that Lancaster NG193 (pilot F/O R.Aleonard) crashed on operations to Merseburg – Leuna on 14-15/01/1945 and that reference was made to this in the document "History of 463 Sqdn." by Bill Hodges. Wondered whether you could give me publishing details of this document and where I might obtain it from.

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My father was a navigator on S for sugar. Flt Lieut Martin Arthur Rooney, his pilot was A Fisher (according to your files) In your file you have him has M.N Rooney. I would be so grateful if you could get me a list of his crew and details of their whereabouts, if any. My dad is 81 years old and as fit as a fiddle. It would be so wonderful for him to speak to old friends. Many thanks for this opportunity Alicia Rooney.

Author's Comment  The information has been posted to all the sections of the Squadrons Associations Australia. 8th May 2002

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This is a fantastic and wonderful site. I now now much more about my grandfathers squadron, but my Grandfather (H.Howard) is still very much with us and you have typed him up as KIA.

Author's Comment  Many errors occur in the old records from which we are building this site. Often we come across conflicting Information and hopefully the interested readers contact us and correct that information. Peter Johnson

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KEEP UP THE GOOD WEB PAGES. IT IS THE BEST I HAVE COME ACROSS. I HAD A FRIEND HARRY BOTTERIL WHO FLEW FROM WADDINGTON.

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My name is Frederick Parent. I was radio op. in JO-Z P/o Athur  Cox DSO. I have made contact with Gwen Blundell, but I wish to inform archives that Robert Smurthwaite Bomb Aimer died April 2001 at home. Just for your record. Do you have any news of Jock Hogg rear gunner? He is the only crew member I have not found. Thanks for your great website, I only just found it.

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Dear Peter, thanks again for the inclusion of the crew picture that I sent. I just love this site and spend hours looking through the info posted. Great work. Thanks again Tina Lowe.

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I really enjoyed your site. It is absolutely first class. My late father was a B-24 pilot who served in Italy. I was shocked and humbled by the number of crews completing their 30 mission tours. I don't think you could say that night bombing was safer than daylight. Time will never dim your bravery or the glory of your deeds.

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Hi - my dad fought in the war with RAAF and he's very proud of the history and his part in the success of the squadron - so for all those who remember Ron Fairburn - he says HI!

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Thanks for making this site available. My Grandmother's nephew was killed whilst serving with 467 Sqdn. Its nice to find out the names of the chaps he served and died with. We have letters that just refer to nicknames so it was nice to get the full details. Cheers

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Well, Peter, what a helluva fine site. Congratulations to all involved, for the hard work involved and to those who looked once again into their vivid past to give us an insight into the feats and fears that ordinary people can survive.

By the way, on the Aussie Regent Kingfisher - maybe it didn't pass the Heralds as a badge, because an RAF unit already had the English Kingfisher approved.

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Thank you for a wonderful insight into my Great-Uncle's contribution to the WW2 effort. My Dad also became a pilot and I can remember him telling me about his Uncle Derek Schubert who flew on the Lancaster bombers. I heard on the news tonight that you had a reunion and decided to look at your web site. I have just been able to find out that he was a member of 467 Squadron and was interested to learn a little of what these courageous men endured. I am looking forward to telling my Dad as he was unaware of the details of his Uncle. Unfortunately my grandmother passed away a short time ago. She would have loved to know where her brother was commemorated. I'm sure your website is a great gift to many people. Thank you again.

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As a schoolboy during WW2 I followed as closely as possible, the story of the Lancaster Bomber and the Australian Squadron exploits and having found your website, following an item I saw on our A.B.C. Tv, decided to have a look. Congratulations! It is all one could expect. The Lancaster was a wonderful aircraft, manned by a special group of fliers. Thank you for this privilege.

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It was great to see my dads name and flight details on the web, he was J.E.Bishop F/S 467 squadron, thanks John Bishop.S.A.

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I am the grandson of Eric Evans, Rear Gunner in Lancaster NF990, Call name JO Q for Queenie, shot down November 6th 1944. Mission details on the site are correct except I do not believe that all of the crew were taken POW. At least one was KIA - straifed by a ME-110 whilst standing astride open bomb doors (after plane had been terminally damaged by flak). Please let me know how this tallies with your records. Also, the call name is incorrectly labeled as JO-P not JO-Q. Finally, I have my grand father's detailed account of the mission (he is still alive) - would this be of interest for your site? Kind regards.

Author's Comment:  Yes I would be very interested to read your Grand-dad's account of the flight.

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Hi-I have just found your site. Thank you so much. My late father D F Edwards was a navigator with 467.I am so glad that you have honored him and all the other brave heroes who fought so we could be free-thank you –GRANT EDWARDS

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A great site for all of us who a proud of our heroic Dads. My father is Frank Beamish and he flew with amongst others, Alan Fishers crew. He was a rear gunner and completed all 30 missions ending as a W/O and gunnery instructor. He did fly some ops in "S" Sugar which is now in the RAF museum at Hendon. If any of his old crew members are still around he would dearly love to hear from them.

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I was Freddy Merrill's rear gunner, but because of a 'flu epidemic', did my first op. with P/O Hemsworth on 3/4.12.43. The remaining 44 trips were with Freddy, quite a few of them with the RAF Film Production Lanc. Regarding the death of Bert Turner on 20/21.1.44, this was caused by a small piece of flak that cut the oxygen supply to the mid-upper turret. He became anoxic, was sick into his mask and choked. When unconscious he kept his hand on the control, so the turret kept turning, and it took Rawsthorne, O'Toole, and Hall to get him out. I went back to help after we left the enemy coast, but by that time it was clear that he was dead. I think the site is excellent and I am sure I will spend quite a while searching it.

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I have always been interested in aviation, especially WW11 era, the pilots, aircrew and aircraft and the stories they tell. I can remember standing under the wing of "G-George" at the Canberra War Memorial some years ago and feeling this wave of emotion surge through me. Had the privilege of meeting George KLENNER DFC, ex 218 squadron. George was the pilot in the book "Eighth Passenger" by Miles Tripp. Brave pilot and a gentleman. Wonderful site and I thank you for your efforts.

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What a fantastic site this is. Thanks for the time and effort put into it. I had the pleasure of helping to restore Lancaster NX665 in New Zealand and know a little of the conditions these brave men had to endure night after night. I was lucky to meet many ex aircrew and show them through our Lanc, including F/O Rex Thomas a bomb aimer I think, from 467 squadron. Anyway, thanks again for this excellent site.

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Thank you very much for the information. Congratulations. Sincerely yours from Belgium.

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I have just seen the photographs of the redoubtable Reg Boys on your wonderful web site. I have known Reg, and the lovely Gwen, for about three years. I met them when I started researching a feature film on three Bomber Command veterans. Reg is a true gentleman - courteous, self-effacing, and honorable.

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I have met a lot of the guys and have found 99% of them to be exactly the same.

I do not know Reg personally, but I am sure he will be cast from the same mold as the other gentlemen that I have met.

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We have recently completed a website honoring the memory of Flight Sergeant Harry Hansell RCAF, an air gunner who died in a Halifax bomber (434 Squadron) over Germany in 1943. His very personal story was in many ways typical of hundreds of Canadian boys, yet his father the Honorable Ernest G. Hansell M.P. was able to determine many details of his war service that often were never known by families who lost sons or husbands under similar circumstances. HARRY'S STORY can be read at http://www.my.intergate.ca/bhansell/

Authors Comment: - I have visited this story and it is great reading for those interested in Bomber Command WWII. The site is well laid out, easy to navigate, and full of pictures.

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A marvelous site, thanks for putting in the work. Best wishes Scot Perrie Gt Nephew of F/S James Perrie 467 Sqdn LM583 KIA over Germany 30/08/44 aged 20 on his first mission. May they all rest in peace.

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Congratulations on a great job. I was W/Op in Arthur Cox's crew, and now living in Canada. At this moment Gwen Blundell is visiting and typing this message~ So Gwen has been filling me in on your dedication to the Squadron's history, etc.

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Dear Sir, My father was a witness of the Lancaster crash in Langemark, Flanders Fields, Belgium in the night of 10/11 May 1944. The pilot was Squadron Leader Mervyn POWELL. The plane crashed in a flooded clay pit on my grandfathers property and the crew was KIA. The body of the aircraft was almost intact and the Germans took it out for recovery. In short time wrecks of other planes were brought to the site. There is a picture of young schoolgirls standing in front of a Lancaster Pilots compartment showing clearly " DAME SANS MERCY ", the mission signs and the ribbon of a Distinguished Flying Cross. Therefore we think that this is Powell's aircraft, knowing he was awarded a DFC. We have a small group of enthusiasts in Langemark community who supported by the town council, erect monuments for historical dates and events. We have already erected a memorial for the crash-landing and the safe return of a B17 USAAF February 1945. We have enough info about Powell's crew and aircraft but could you inform us about: - was " Dame sans mercy " his aircraft, - do you have pictures of that particular aircraft, - do you have a clear drawing of " Dame sans mercy " - do you have pictures of his Lancaster LL882 We have a lot of WW1 Australian history in Flanders fields and it would be very nice to erect a small memorial for 463 Squadron on the crash site, but therefore we need more info of the Lancaster.

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Wonderful site will visit often.My mother's cousin AG Len Calderwood was KIA while serving in 463 Sqd. So many,so young.A pity that most are unaware of the enormity of their sacrifice.

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A very interesting site. I'm the family's archivist and spend quite a bit of time trying to find details for grand-children that the late grand-parents didn't think they'd want to know. I'm trying to find The Mates that my late father-in-law Ernie Jakeman (from South East London) served with at BOTTESFORD in Lincolnshire but don't know if he was Air or Ground Crew. Any help appreciated.

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A very interesting and inspiring site. Being a Bomber Command fan I found it absorbing. It is great to see that history is being preserved and that the sacrifice of these brave people has not been forgotten, nor the record of the aircraft that they flew.

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This site is a plethora of information of a great Squadron covering an era gone forever & through this site it will live to eternity.

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FOUND THIS INTERESTING. 

MY FATHER SERVED IN 467 SQUADRON RAAF FROM 1944 TO END OF THE WAR. HE WAS A MID UPPER GUNNER ON P_OB BAKER. 

HIS NAME WAS EWEN MACKINNON. HE CAME FROM BALLINA NEW SOUTH WALES AND JOINED THE RAAF AFTER TRANSFERRING FROM THE ARMY. HE HAD DONE HIS GUNNERY COURSE AT EVANS HEADS NEW SOUTH WALES. WAS POSTED TO WADDINGTON TO JOIN 467 SQ AS A GUNNER. 

HE SADLY PASSED AWAY ON THE 20TH JULY 1994 SADLY MISSED BY HIS FAMILY. I AM SURE HE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE READ THIS WEB SITE

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My name is Jenelle McCarrick and have recently discovered a relative Flight Sergent, (gunner) on mission, DV337 served with 463 squadron, lost on 1st op. 26-27 Nov, 1943, Berlin and wonder if there are any photos of this squadron, I know he has a grave Berlin War Memorial, found that through the www.ww2roll.gov.au,wonder if there are any left of this squadron who may have known of William Thornton Sherwin, died aged 22 - 26.11.1943,thank you for a wonderful opportunity to read about a relative fallen who served Australia and our family proudly, Jenelle.

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Re roll of honour entry for Hallam, R H, 467 Squadron. He is shown as Sgt. Australian War memorial list him as Flt. Sgt. He operated out of Lakenheath. There is no mention of Lakenheath throughout. This is one of the best sites!!.

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Well done - your site is comprehensive and really fascinating. Thanks for making these records available, I've learnt a lot.

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Absolutely brilliant site, just a couple of small errors I hope you won't mind . My uncle, W.H.Morgan was a F/O in the RAF. On the crew list of 467 SQN, F/O Mitchell G.D. he is shown as P/O in RAAF(KIA 13/7/43). Incidentally, the story of his final flight and pictures of the actual wreckage were published in Aeroplane Monthly of January 1991, I have a copy. Many thanks for an excellent site!

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In the diary entries, on 5/1/45 the pilot of PB697 JO-R was Milne, not Mirne. The information you give about the squadrons is outstanding. I can't take anymore in at the moment and will have another look at the website on another day.

Author's Comment  Many errors occur in the old records from which we are building this site. Often we come across conflicting Information and hopefully the interested readers contact us and correct that information. Peter Johnson

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Very interesting to see S-Sugar pictures on sale. I flew in McClelland's crew in 1943 at Bottesford and Waddington in R5868. Is Dusty Miller in contact with you? Do you have his address?

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I was thrilled to find this site and find out about my father P/O Gall  C.J.C. who was a navigator in 467 and flew with J Clarke. Dad is now 92 years old and still going strong.

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A wonderful site. Discovered purely by accident when I was searching for an old style flying helmet to wear at a "Murder" party. My father-in-law, F.W. Dixon, flew with both squadrons & like all veterans is loathe to talk about his wartime experiences. He did open up later to one of his nephews who wrote a very good article about Frank, but there were still many gaps which this site has helped fill in.

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Fantastic site that is full of information and great pictures. It's a must for anyone who is looking for any information on a friend or relative. One suggestion is if you could ask all ex-RAF personnel who are regulars to your web site if they could let you know of any names they remember and in this way it may jog a few memories and bring new information to the site.

Authors Comment: We are looking into the possibility of opening a ChatRoom/Forum section for the website.

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Thanks for a wonderful site. My Dad was in the 467 Squadron and was shot down over Mailly Le Camp in May 1944. His Pilot was Col Dickson. I was wondering if you could correct a few things regarding my father. His initials are R I Hunter (Robert Isiah), not R D Hunter as mentioned in the site. Also he was in the RAAF, one of three Australians in the crew, along with Stan Jolly and Hilton Forden. After they were shot down, Dad became a prisoner in a hospital in Troyes - he was very badly burnt, and Stan escaped. I would very much appreciate it if you could correct these three facts as it is important that they are accurate. However I think you have done a wonderful job of such a massive task.

Regards Janet O'Brien

Author's Comment  Many errors occur in the old records from which we are building this site. Often we come across conflicting Information and hopefully the interested readers contact us and correct that information. Peter Johnson

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Well Done. Re Flying Officer Archay. Came from family of Chinese ethnic heritage. Name will be entered in Chinese History at Australian Federation database at Latrobe University.

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Thank you for helping us to know more of our brother's story with 463 (Wilkinson JAH, lost on July 28/29, 1944. The amount of information and the work needed to assemble this is very impressive and it is a fresh insight for the younger generations of a history to be proud of. Many thanks, Bob Wilkinson

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G'day Peter

My name is Yves Fohlen...SOME of your countrymen are saying that I am the most Aussie French man...for almost 29 years I have been studying the Great War....I focused my study about the Australian and British war effort. In France as a battlefield guide..I am used to help Aussies in their Remembrance.

Today I am off duty..I have visited your website..a fascinating one and a tribute to those who flew over Europe...to give us Freedom.

Thanks for your website.. be sure that in Froggies' land WWII RAAF crews are not forgotten... they did not suffer or fall in vain...because today I am free.

Lest We Forget.

Yves Fohlen

Your Fair Dinkum Froggy Cobber

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My grandfather was in squadron 467 from Jan '43 - Jan '44 but you are missing his initials in the list of crews. He is Walder P.A -- Gunner MU and tail. He received the DFM. He has just celebrated his 60th wedding anniversary and would be interested to know of any surviving crew members.

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I was a teenager in Manchester in the 1950s and had a happy, carefree life. Reading these stories of the bomber crews has made me realize how much I owe to them for the freedom I enjoyed. To be over Germany at 20,000 feet being fired at by fighter planes and guns from the ground required the highest courage. That they should do it time and again was almost unbelievable. What a great place in history those young men have. So many died in the prime of their lives. How different my youth would have been had the Nazis won.

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I am so happy that I found this site. My father was a Bomb Aimer of 463 Squadron, JO-C

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I found my pop, pilot N.R.McDonald of 467 squadron. I knew he was an Australian who flew in the UK. Your web site has so much information, well done. If you have a photo of him and/or his plane please let my know. How can I find out what medals he was awarded?

Cheers..... Chris Freeburn (McDonald on my mothers side)

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Hello and congratulations on an absolutely superb website! I am researching the Friedrichshafen raid on 20 June 1943 prior to writing a book about it and I have uncovered an absolute mine of information here about 467 Squadron's participation! I would love to hear from any of the surviving crews who took part in that first "shuttle" raid or anyone in fact who was involved in any way. Once again congratulations on your fine tribute to the brave men of the RAAF.

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No one has remembered F.O. Ernest Francis Geroge Haddlesey He received the DFC and was shot down and lots his leg. He was with the plane S for Sugar. He spent 8 months in Germany as a prisoner of war. His last flight may have been with an Ausy Crew. But he was Canadian first last and always.

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Check the crew missions for Colpus J.A. and Davis T.E.W. on the 467 Pilots pages.

My father the late Ewen MacKinnon served with 467 Squadron during 1944 to 1945. He was a mid upper gunner in this Squadron. We as his family, His wife Theresa and his children are proud of his service to his country of Australia and his service in 467 Squadron during World War 2. I as one of his sons am pleased to add my tribute to this web site. But more so proud to be associated by family links to 467/463 Squadrons, due to my father serving in the RAAF. I am proud of my father Ewen MacKinnon and his fellow airman who flew in defence of Australia and the Commonwealth of Nations operating out of England during a period of history. These brave men were defending our liberties and our freedoms for generations to come. God bless the men and women who served in these 2 Squadrons during WW2. For they paid the sarcifice for us to live in peace. Most came home to families but an amount of men didn't and to those men who died during WW2 in service to our country i pay this tribute to them

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Absolutely unbelievable every item you have inserted, I find it very hard to leave the site once connected. Wonderful stories and entries. many thanks.

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THIS IS A GREAT WEBSITE I AM FINDING A LOT ABOUT MY MOTHER'S COUSIN WHO FLEW WITH 467 SQN DV372 F-FREDDIE. AND THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT HE FLEW IF IT WAS NOT FOR SITES LIKE THIS ALL WOULD BE LOST MANY THANKS AGAIN. HIS NAME WAS SGT A.J. NEWMAN ENGINEER

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This is an absolutely wonderful website. It is a truly wonderful commemoration of these brave men who flew from their aircraft during the war.

Can you please give me any information on where I might be able purchase any of Nobby's books. I would love to read more about these squadrons. I have been unable to locate any copies for sale.

Any assistance will be thoroughly appreciated.

Regards Geoff S

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My grandfather was a rear gunner in a Lancaster Bomber. I am not sure what squadron but he was English. His name was Roland Skelton Page. He managed to survive 6 years of war.

Also on another note, my father who has had his pilots license since 1968 was taught to fly by none other than Max Johnson at Geelong Airport, the Lancaster Pilot. He said he was a 'seat of your pants' flyer. If you want any more information contact me through email.

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JUST TO SAY THANKS LADS, FROM SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT FORGET.

ONE GRATEFUL POMMIE

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I have been fascinated with Lancs and the crew that flew them from the age of 7yrs.This web site has everything I wanted to see. Thank you.

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Informative and interesting. As the staff officer in Air Force Headquarters who was responsible for drawing together the recent activity in Berlin for the crew of ED 867, I was pleased to see the story and photographs posted. If you feel I can be of any assistance to fill in any gaps, please feel free to contact me.

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CAN NOT LEAVE THIS WEB SITE ALONE IS REALLY GREAT THIS IS MY SECOND PRAISE STILL TRYING TO LOCATE MY MOTHERS COUSIN WHO FLEW WITH P/O H.W.COULSON HIS NAME IS SGT A.J. NEWMAN AND HE SERVED WITH 467SQUADRON FROM SEPTEMBER 1943 TO END OF MAY 1944 IF ANY BODY GOT ANY INFORMATION I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP

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Thank you for the help in tracing my uncle, George Edward Carrington. My mother didn't know who to ask, and you have helped her a great deal. I would be interested to know. who were on board that last flight to Harburg, and also where they were based. Mum thought it was in Lincolnshire. She remembers a man called Billy Craig, but that's all.

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I am a member of the Orders and Medals Research Society here in the UK. I am currently researching the career of the late P/O Brown who was KIA on 15.3.44.I would like to thank you for an excellent site as I have found out so much about 463 and his crew members. Keep up the good work!